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Post by apolloswill on Jul 26, 2017 15:39:48 GMT
This is the General Board, and it say I can talk about anything here, so I will.
I'm trying to quit smoking. 42, and have a 2 year old boy, so I have decided I should do what I can, to increase my chances to stay around for him for as long as I can.
Smoking is a big one. Been smoking since I was in the Military, so almost 25 years. Had one break for about 3 month (when I was 30), with the help of nicotine gum and bandage, but one night out, and a bit too much vodka, I was right back in to it.
Of recent time (2 years ago), I did succeed for about a week with the help of vape, but then I read an article about it could be even worse than smoking. So I found my excuse to go back.
So...I was on vacation for almost 2 weeks. When I got back to work, I found the place had been turned upside down, morale was down, people was leaving, and so high expense items had been bought (and not needed). Damn I got stressed, and smoked almost a pack of cigs within a couple of hours. Resulting in crazy chest pains. I'm normally in pretty good form, and that scared the shit out of me. Took the rest of my pack, and tossed it.
That was 9 days ago. Haven't smoked since.
But here is my problem. I thought after 3 days, the physical addiction would have been gone, but still have crazy headache. But even worse, I am so frigging cranky. I do think that I normally can control my anger. Of course, as everyone else, I get annoyed and frustrated by things, but I keep it pretty calm, and try to fix it...not now. I get so angry. Heck, I'm scaring myself when driving. I don't have road rage (or so I thought).
I need advice. Have you tried quitting smoking, and what did you do to calm down? Do you find yourself getting angry, but have ways to stop yourself from exploding? Let me know how. Any advice would be appreciated it. Feel I just have to get through a month, and I will be fine...right? To scared to even play a blood bowl match, as I could imagine my screen getting punched if the dice does not go right.
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Post by DocOz3000 on Jul 26, 2017 22:41:24 GMT
This is the General Board, and it say I can talk about anything here, so I will. I'm trying to quit smoking. 42, and have a 2 year old boy, so I have decided I should do what I can, to increase my chances to stay around for him for as long as I can. Smoking is a big one. Been smoking since I was in the Military, so almost 25 years. Had one break for about 3 month (when I was 30), with the help of nicotine gum and bandage, but one night out, and a bit too much vodka, I was right back in to it. Of recent time (2 years ago), I did succeed for about a week with the help of vape, but then I read an article about it could be even worse than smoking. So I found my excuse to go back. So...I was on vacation for almost 2 weeks. When I got back to work, I found the place had been turned upside down, morale was down, people was leaving, and so high expense items had been bought (and not needed). Damn I got stressed, and smoked almost a pack of cigs within a couple of hours. Resulting in crazy chest pains. I'm normally in pretty good form, and that scared the shit out of me. Took the rest of my pack, and tossed it. That was 9 days ago. Haven't smoked since. But here is my problem. I thought after 3 days, the physical addiction would have been gone, but still have crazy headache. But even worse, I am so frigging cranky. I do think that I normally can control my anger. Of course, as everyone else, I get annoyed and frustrated by things, but I keep it pretty calm, and try to fix it...not now. I get so angry. Heck, I'm scaring myself when driving. I don't have road rage (or so I thought). I need advice. Have you tried quitting smoking, and what did you do to calm down? Do you find yourself getting angry, but have ways to stop yourself from exploding? Let me know how. Any advice would be appreciated it. Feel I just have to get through a month, and I will be fine...right? To scared to even play a blood bowl match, as I could imagine my screen getting punched if the dice does not go right. Hi Bud, Let me start by saying I've been, and still am, a smoker for about the last 25 years myself... I've quit multiple times for various BS reasons (3 years when my daughter was born in fact), I had all the symptoms of nicotine withdraw on multiple occasions, and I started smoking again because I wanted to, not because I made excuses about starting up... I started in the Military too, while stuck in the deserts of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait during the first Desert Shield/Storm dayz... I was a medic and had no excuse for starting (though I've made up a few in my mind since I started they're all just BS... I smoke because I like to smoke). Now that introductions are out of the way, let me give you the best piece of advice I can... You won't like it, but you asked for it... Stop making excuses and quit or don't quit... Don't use the process as an excuse to act or do anything... If you have a headache, take some aspirin and get over it... If you feel yourself getting angry, then you have no excuse but to calm down and, once again, get over it. It's true that after 3 - 5 days the body starts recovering from the former nicotine that you were feeding it, I've found that strenuous exercise (basically sweating a lot) makes that go a bit faster... But everything else; the mood swings, the headache, the compulsions are all psychosomatic and it's up to you and your will to be the master of yourself to just, get over it... If you can't you can't...but it's your weakness not the Cigarettes strength that makes you smoke... Don't use an arbitrary #days or certain events, or anything for that matter to stop or start, just do it because it's better for you than not doing it... As you might have guessed, I'm not one of those touchy feely guys that wants to extend a crutch to people, I'd much rather have you limp till you can walk again, let the pain remind you of whatever put you into that condition to begin with and maybe you'll think twice in the future... Just my $.02 take it for what it is... Oz
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Post by apolloswill on Jul 26, 2017 23:42:29 GMT
Oh, I like your answer. And you are right. There probably is nothing else to do than go through it.
Now, I don't want to stop, but I know it's time when body start acting up.
The headache and such, I can deal with (to some degrees), It's my anger that is the biggest problem.
I am trying to make most people, I work with aware, and they have been awesome, to not put too much weight behind my outburst. Its just crazy, the mind works like this; believing you are in so much control, until you find, you are not. Know what I'm saying? You are right about this number. That is probably what screwed it up a bit. 3 days I thought, and the worst is over...it's not. First starting now.
But goddamn you, you are right. I'm just a fucking pussy. Man up...I got this. This addiction is not going to get me.
I'M A Quitter I'M A Quitter I'M A Quitter
Oh, wait. I mean..you know, I'm no quitter. But...WTF...I hate you all.
Thank you, Doc. You are right. Just stop crying. I have never been known as a wuss, and I sure am seeming like one now. I got this. Will be reading you answer every day. It is like getting slapped in the face first time, to understand it, and then a second time, so I don't forget it.
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Post by havol on Jul 27, 2017 1:06:57 GMT
That's actually pretty good advice, Doc.
My brother is trying to get help for alcohol dependency and I more or less told him the same thing. Quit or don't. Be stronger than the addiction.
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Post by weresquid on Jul 27, 2017 1:31:15 GMT
Long time smoker here, i have tried to quit a few times and gotten a week or two into it before folding. I also asked a friend who successfully quit a few years ago. He shut himself off from the world for about two weeks, i ended up calling his family because i was worried (got the message that i should probably leave him alone for the time being).
What we agreed on is this: any excuse could fuck up your efforts. One cigarette could get you back to smoking again. Dont fool yourself into thinking you can have just one and it'll be fine, get used to saying no no matter how much you've been drinking (yes i know this is really hard), if necessary tell all your friends and loved ones to kick you in the balls if they see you with a cigarette (not at all a joke).
The good part, according to my friend, is that that period of feeling sick and angry will be over in a relatively short time. Just don't think it means you're over the addiction.
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