Rules - Fouling and movement.

It's hard to know where to start with how misplaced your assumpions regarding fouling actually are.
The fluff/ethos around teams using dirty tricks, dubious tactics & corrupt referees are fundamental
to the spirit of the game itself & should be embraced as such.
If it helps trying to look at it on a mechanical level - view fouling as an extra block or 'floor blitz'!

In the game narrative, teams who object/take offence to fouls are seen as a joke (Hero's of Law & Bright Crusaders
spring to mind). In the game, coaches who take umbridge with an opponent who fouls are equally regarded as
pixel hugging morons.





OK great... well thats a good start.



So what? If accumulating SPP's is your main priority the you're focusing on a very narrow
concept of the game. There are many other games where players can happily build pretty
things in some kind of Sandbox/ plasitc bubble environment where you can (apparently)
get enjoyment from marvelling in your wonderful perfect creations... Blood Bowl is not
one of those games.



Only those with the above mentioned missplaced attitude (See; Morons)



Really??!! Wow. Enjoy it while the honeymoon period lasts...



Nonsense. If this were the case then private leagues would be fabricating an unbalanced, unnatural
& flawed environment where coaches would be conciously pulling their punches & thereby not
letting the random mechanics of the game run properly - thus ultimately turning the league into a joke.
The rules in the Campaign book state that coaches should play to win. If coaches go into a match
with a wink wink nudge nudge.. 'i'll not try to hurt you & we'll both let eachother score loads'
this should be seen as an illegal match & ordinarily both coaches would be reprimanded.

You play to win, earn your stripes in the blood & glory of the game.



Here's a great example of what not to do:

I'm not deliberately focusing on you, your posts are a great sounding board for coach evolution in general terms
& it's one we've all been through & are perpetually going through.
The constant appeal of the game is that it is very involving & very unforgiving - & as such it will bring
out the worst in even the best of us at times - but (getting back in context) it is not the fouler who has the
wrong attitude to the match.. the destructive attitude is the guy who moans & rage quits (a la Auld World)
which is the toxic environment private leagues ultimately strive to avoid.  

.. but i digress..

There are many more reasons to foul than not to (even on turn 16; ESPECIALLY in a private league!).
Here's an example:

Having beaten a rival during the league stage once upon a time i refrained from fouling a positional
player during the end of a match. If i had one so (requiring a 4+ armour break & DP on possible injury)
there may have been a reasonably good chance he could have been at least MNG for the next match.
In their next match the player in question was a big influence on the game & even ran in the winning TD.
This led to him leapfrogging me into the playoffs & ultimately taking the title... looking back on it should
i have fouled on turn 16? Naively not pressing my advantage indirectly cost me dear, if in doubt foul!
You never know when your mercy will come back to haunt you

dammit Parrigan! You beat me to it.

Well said Mercyflush

I didn't foul at all until recently (except when using goblins). After coming back to BB a few months ago, I was in a game and got fouled a few times. It woke me up. I decided that I would try fouling in a few games (as long as the other player was worth more than mine). So far it has been beneficial (although I do feel bad when a main player gets permanently hurt or dies). Last week I was going against Ren's flings with my gobos in the Stretcher League. At the end of the game, he just had Deeproot Strongbranch left on the field. I stomped the crap out of him and he just wouldn't die. I told him ahead of time that I was going to try to take him out because he was a Star Player, but honestly, I regretted it after the game. I had already cleared the rest of the field, like I said. In that situation, I don't think I would do that again. (Sorry Ren)

That being said, when I'm in game, I try to reduce the number of opponents on the field if I can... not to be mean, but because when I'm on the other end of it, I refuse to quit. (Had to edit this part. I generally don't try to clear the field... just make it so the opponent doesn't have enough to score or stop me from scoring. I think I have only actually cleared a field completely once ever.)

I would attempt 4 6+ dodges to get to the player that had the ball, and try to take them out with 3 dice in their favor, just so the other coach can't stall for the win. I will try anything, no matter how impossible, and I have the mindset that someone else will too.

Getting back on topic... it is just another move to make in the game. It can be quite effective. If you feel bad doing it, you don't have to. You may be putting yourself at a disadvantage, but it is your choice to do so. Expect that someone else will, and TRY not to take it personally. If you make it part of the fluff, it can actually make the experience better.

No. This is incorrect.

I'm pretty identical to Squiggy. As a general rule, every decision should be based on will this help me win the game. If the answer is yes, foul away. If no, then there is something else that player should be doing instead. My only exception to this would be the Crippled Cup. Cause, you know, hurting the other team is kinda half the point of playing.

is it worth it? To foul I mean?

YES!

but they can return next drive, where as if you are called out by the ref, you are out for the game.

When you hit 15 players with some of the foul-heavy teams (Khemri, Undead, etc.) this doesn't matter so much. 40k lineman = load up & get some DP's right away.

I've always found the psychological threat of a dp foul to be highly effective without fouling, but only if you are willing to act out the threat! Even my wood elf team has a dodge/dirty player, and even with his 110tv he has on multiple occasions put an opponent of pomb-ing, especially with his high movement. Think I've fouled with him maybe five times in Ten games at most but he's saved two wardancers and a catcher from pile on.