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Post by apolloswill on May 10, 2015 3:54:20 GMT
 choo know what cha problem is Apollo? Choo neva met Clubba Lang in da ring.. ahhh can't be beat... ahh won't beee beat. I guess it was only a matter of time  |
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Post by Charliebanks on May 10, 2015 17:37:46 GMT
I will foul the shit out of ALL of you!  The only way to stop me fouling is to kill all my players - and I consider a T16 foul as a kinda high five at the end of the game  |
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Post by crimsonsun on May 19, 2015 13:12:09 GMT
Honestly I find it more offensive if my opponent stops or refrains from fouling, which is like saying your studs are too good for my face really isn't it. Same way if someone apologises for killing one of my players, the only thing I learn from that situation is my opponents lying to me in an attempt to pacify my feelings. I will tell you this fact, when I kill your players I will be cheering with joy on voice chat and laughing with manic glee at that players ended existence, I make no secret of it and in fact I actually have a hall of fame featuring my best kills achieved in Private Leagues and Cups with which I can remind coaches of before future fixtures or too create cool montages like this one...  |
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Post by Ren Höek on May 19, 2015 15:25:33 GMT
We are all different. But I assure you; If I kill one of your star-players I won't be cheering. And I won't be hiding a false smile.
I am too empathetic for that. I invest a lot of feeling into the pixels that I have nurtured from rookie to higher levels, and it stings when they get killed.
You are of course free to foul all you want, but if I am secure about winning I would try not to destroy my opponents team more than necessary. Otherwise my other opponents will be getting benefits from it. Also, it's just plain evil to grind someone into the dirt when they are already laying down.
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Post by crimsonsun on May 19, 2015 16:25:18 GMT
We are all different. But I assure you; If I kill one of your star-players I won't be cheering. And I won't be hiding a false smile.
I am too empathetic for that. I invest a lot of feeling into the pixels that I have nurtured from rookie to higher levels, and it stings when they get killed.
You are of course free to foul all you want, but if I am secure about winning I would try not to destroy my opponents team more than necessary. Otherwise my other opponents will be getting benefits from it. Also, it's just plain evil to grind someone into the dirt when they are already laying down. In honesty I'm actually fairly relaxed when it comes to fouling and destroying a team, I prefer enemies to fight back the stronger, and my kill skill developed the better once defeated I just position to control and make sure they cannot achieve anything but 2d uphill blocks at best. BUT your Superstars, Killers and Legends or just about any interesting positional players are going to get murdered given half a chance though actual fouls I won't take myself below 9 players now and I'm really only going to do that in the second half late on when your at 6 or fewer players. But if a players standing then its going to get targeted by killers setting up chain pushes or surfs if the initial hit is poor. Regards to Pixels all players die and honestly if the worst thing in my day is some pixels die I'm having a bloody good day really. Not only that but death of Legends or Super stars create room for the development of new memorable players, new stories and maybe 1 in 10 or 20 will become a legend and new chapter of achievement with your teams development, I consider my records as much of a sign of respect to the coach whom the deceased belonged to that there player is considered noteworthy enough to feature in my hall of fame. |
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Post by Kaiser on May 21, 2015 11:15:03 GMT
We are all different. But I assure you; If I kill one of your star-players I won't be cheering. And I won't be hiding a false smile.
I am too empathetic for that. I invest a lot of feeling into the pixels that I have nurtured from rookie to higher levels, and it stings when they get killed.
You are of course free to foul all you want, but if I am secure about winning I would try not to destroy my opponents team more than necessary. Otherwise my other opponents will be getting benefits from it. Also, it's just plain evil to grind someone into the dirt when they are already laying down. In honesty I'm actually fairly relaxed when it comes to fouling and destroying a team, I prefer enemies to fight back the stronger, and my kill skill developed the better once defeated I just position to control and make sure they cannot achieve anything but 2d uphill blocks at best. BUT your Superstars, Killers and Legends or just about any interesting positional players are going to get murdered given half a chance though actual fouls I won't take myself below 9 players now and I'm really only going to do that in the second half late on when your at 6 or fewer players. But if a players standing then its going to get targeted by killers setting up chain pushes or surfs if the initial hit is poor. Regards to Pixels all players die and honestly if the worst thing in my day is some pixels die I'm having a bloody good day really. Not only that but death of Legends or Super stars create room for the development of new memorable players, new stories and maybe 1 in 10 or 20 will become a legend and new chapter of achievement with your teams development, I consider my records as much of a sign of respect to the coach whom the deceased belonged to that there player is considered noteworthy enough to feature in my hall of fame. I am with Ren on this one, I feel the same way, though i dont get upset (well one players hurt 3 points off level 7) I do feel bad for players that do lose a player (I do cheer when I badly hurt a player and normally do not say sorry for that, I do want players off the pitch like any other coach) and so i take offense that because I kill or stat bust a player and feel bad for that person I am called a liar and am not sincere. Not everyone is like you, for that I am happy, so dont pigeon hole me based on the standards you set of yourself. Dont worry I wont say sorry if I now kill one of your players so you can then feel the illusion of respect you deem I will be giving by doing so, If you like I will even feign happiness and fake a cheer if you like, but to do so will be the lie and so may make your illusion of my respect feel hollow and diminished. I do agree with you about "death of Legends or Super stars create room for the development of new memorable players, new stories" 100% but as for your "sign of respect to the coach whom the deceased belonged" apart from one pic in that very cool montage I see no way of knowing who the other team was or who the coach was, no clear sign of respect, and so is to me (and this is just MY assumption) just a shallow ego trip boast of yourself, I am sure I may be wrong, just how it looks (and nothing wrong with that if you wish to be that way, it has its own charm) |
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Post by autismawareness/joejohnheath on May 21, 2015 15:59:04 GMT
It's kind funny. To a certain extent, I agree with both points of view. I want to do well, and I don't want the other guy to feel like crap either. The game is all about having fun. If I'm being honest, my initial feeling about whatever it is that happens with this usually changes. If I take someone out, in my head I think, "YES! I took him out of the game!" Then a little later I will feel bad for the person. When I get a guy taken out, I think, "Shit! Now I don't have that guy!" Then a little later, I come up with the story for the team and end up replacing him.
I believe I am like most people. Maybe not though. I do like to win, even dominate in a game (and hurting players definitely has its place in that), but I am VERY empathetic. Those two parts of me often battle for control.
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Post by goodpass on May 22, 2015 16:47:06 GMT
Honestly I find it more offensive if my opponent stops or refrains from fouling, which is like saying your studs are too good for my face really isn't it. Same way if someone apologises for killing one of my players, the only thing I learn from that situation is my opponents lying to me in an attempt to pacify my feelings. I will tell you this fact, when I kill your players I will be cheering with joy on voice chat and laughing with manic glee at that players ended existence, I make no secret of it and in fact I actually have a hall of fame featuring my best kills achieved in Private Leagues and Cups with which I can remind coaches of before future fixtures or too create cool montages like this one... I start to like you, meet you at the funeral.
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Post by crimsonsun on Jun 1, 2015 13:29:53 GMT
Someone got this kill against me this week over in the OCC, I congratulated him and said it's the sort of hit I'd be proud to call my own.  but as for your "sign of respect to the coach whom the deceased belonged" apart from one pic in that very cool montage I see no way of knowing who the other team was or who the coach was, no clear sign of respect, and so is to me (and this is just MY assumption) just a shallow ego trip boast of yourself, I am sure I may be wrong, just how it looks (and nothing wrong with that if you wish to be that way, it has its own charm) Read more: iron-phoenix.freeforums.net/thread/1228/rules-fouling-movement?page=3#ixzz3bohYMUYmThe Montage does not but the actual pictures I keep always have the teams and coaches involved, I just cut them down for that picture as it was done for something specific (what it was alludes me currently) if I fail to track such how would I remind to other coach of the vengeance I'm owed or the humiliation I inflicted upon them previously?  |
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Post by shaunuthun on Jun 1, 2015 13:48:45 GMT
if I fail to track such how would I remind to other coach of the vengeance I'm owed or the humiliation I inflicted upon them previously? For the vengeance Because you aren't owed anything and why would you want to rub in humiliation it's kinda a dick move. Take my match in the Chaos cup I got screwed over by kick off events early on and my lack of skill thought or motivation in the late game. but my opponent was a gentleman and wasn't going like "Oh I'm so much better than you" even if by the end of the game I would be hard pressed to dispute that. I always apologise or make a coment if something happens truley unlucky happens to my opponent E.G quad skulls or a dead player. I don't do it to be patronising but because I know what it's like to be on the receiving end and I don't want to come off as a prick. Sure there are times where I will crack a joke about bad luck if nothing horrible comes about it but in the long run I'm just trying to keep morale up. Anyway that's just my view on it I'm not good at the game or anything so take it with a grain of salt. But to any future opponents I promise I am sincere when I show sympathy wether you want it or not. |
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Post by crimsonsun on Jun 1, 2015 14:05:11 GMT
if I fail to track such how would I remind to other coach of the vengeance I'm owed or the humiliation I inflicted upon them previously? For the vengeance Because you aren't owed anything and why would you want to rub in humiliation it's kinda a dick move. Take my match in the Chaos cup I got screwed over by kick off events early on and my lack of skill thought or motivation in the late game. but my opponent was a gentleman and wasn't going like "Oh I'm so much better than you" even if by the end of the game I would be hard pressed to dispute that. I always apologise or make a coment if something happens truley unlucky happens to my opponent E.G quad skulls or a dead player. I don't do it to be patronising but because I know what it's like to be on the receiving end and I don't want to come off as a prick. Sure there are times where I will crack a joke about bad luck if nothing horrible comes about it but in the long run I'm just trying to keep morale up. Anyway that's just my view on it I'm not good at the game or anything so take it with a grain of salt. But to any future opponents I promise I am sincere when I show sympathy wether you want it or not. Seriously how sincere can you be when your fouling in the first place, if you didn't want to hurt the target you wouldn't be doing it so as far as I'm concerned apologising for the result being a kill is plain offensive and dishonest. Secondly let me be clear I'd never mock an opponent online mid match (though table top I might) and never would I claim to be better than someone else or mock someone because of Kick off results which I hate myself and are an entirely different conversation. I feel your missing the context to which my vengeance/humiliation comment was intended in as its not a I'm better than you but we have history lets build upon this and keep positive banter flowing and build upon the foundations we have already begun. Quad Skull deaths and Sextuplet Skull deaths are something I've suffered too many times to count and normally its on superstars or better, however I will laugh when it happens to me but I agree I am sympathetic without apologising when such happen to my opponent because it's not something that has any skill involved at all but nuffles a c*nt and as such these things are to be expected. Let me share with out a picture of my half time equalising 1turn Touch down attempt in my last private league game I played, it had me in fits of laughter because laughing at pixels is far better than getting stressed out by them...  |
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Post by shaunuthun on Jun 1, 2015 14:19:18 GMT
To each their own Crimson I'm not going to argue with you over wether I'm sincere. For the most part I foul because I want to get a player off the pitch if he dies I have succeeded but my apology is still sincere in that I have set my opponent back and possibly robbed him off several games (most of which go on for nearly an hour mind you.) worth of investment into not just the individual player but the game. And I get that they are just pixels but it dosent make it less frustrating or demoralising to many people and by apologising I at the very least feel less shitty about it but as I said do what you feel is best for you but if I say sorry or if any coach says sorry to you don't just assume we are mocking you or putting on an act.
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Post by Insidious on Jun 1, 2015 18:43:01 GMT
Losing players to fouls really adds to the fluff. I have gang fouled minotaurs to death,which is always rewarding. It is really just good to build up banter and rivalries as long as it's within the code of conduct.
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Post by jounisii on Jun 1, 2015 19:36:26 GMT
When I foul, it's obviously to get the player out. But BH is basically enough for me. If I cause a perma injury on a good player, I can feel the pain. Have happened so many times to me. So I do apologize. Usually sincerely. But if it's oppo's killer asshole of some kind, the comment might be less sincere And about fouling in IP. Again, I would have had little chance against Goodpass in the immortal final, if my lizzies hadn't fouled to start the CAS snowball rolling. Unreliable but sometimes necessary tactic. |
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Post by goodpass on Jun 1, 2015 21:57:04 GMT
When I foul, it's obviously to get the player out. But BH is basically enough for me. If I cause a perma injury on a good player, I can feel the pain. Have happened so many times to me. So I do apologize. Usually sincerely. But if it's oppo's killer asshole of some kind, the comment might be less sincere And about fouling in IP. Again, I would have had little chance against Goodpass in the immortal final, if my lizzies hadn't fouled to start the CAS snowball rolling. Unreliable but sometimes necessary tactic. Not even that unreliable, send off only if a double is rolled. that's 6/36. A bribe works 30/36 of the time. So it's a mighty tool to make winning more easy. Make those fouls count by making it a gang foul I add as an extra suggestion. Plus the attention a dirty playing simpleton gets from your opponent is not given to your starplayers.
Your chance against me would still be truly great, those not fouling players could be used in a different way. Winning would just follow another, more positional, path. you made it to the final and Orcs are one of the best armoured dudes. As you had to face them 6 out of 10 times you are capable of something more as simply fouling around. So praise to the new Champion. Try to win the Goodpass Trophy back to back so the name can become the Fouling Trophy, hihihi.
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