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Post by Mercy Flush on Sept 12, 2015 10:07:35 GMT
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Post by Ren Höek on Sept 12, 2015 10:14:30 GMT
From now on fatzomby is my spokesman in any debates about the op of the damn dwarves!
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Post by goodpass on Sept 12, 2015 10:40:38 GMT
I think that both teams are noob teams and that real men play rats! What do I smell ? Is it a Skaven ? Real men play Humans, that's why they are men. Dwarf teams really use advanced domino pushes to pave their way through a screen.
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Post by goodpass on Sept 12, 2015 10:43:53 GMT
And that's the end of the discussion for me. Like it or not....the DorfFathers say; *in a Marlon Brando voice* "It's just business, son" Met those Dorffathers, that's an impressive team already. No complaints here, I fielded Dwarves too,lol.
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Post by goodpass on Sept 12, 2015 10:52:36 GMT
Dwarves are OP in BB2? I am not surprised. The awful tradition continues. If AG4 is better than block-dorfs of course depends on what style you play as a coach. But dorf blockers in BB1 have block AND tackle, so that very much neutralizes the dodgier teams. And worst of all, dwarf teams encourage the cage-bashing style of playing. Luckily I have candy crush on my smart-phone. That helps alot those times I am stuck playing vs. a dwarf team. They rely on the running game and have to protect that ball. Destroying your opponen's team makes winning a little easier. If they suffer some player damage those replacements come with great scrimline assets. Block, Tackle and Armour 9. I do not claim they are OP, but as a Coach facing them I would rather see them start without Block.
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Post by gone on Sept 12, 2015 10:53:35 GMT
From now on fatzomby is my spokesman in any debates about the op of the damn dwarves! lol
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Post by Squiggy on Sept 12, 2015 11:29:37 GMT
My 2c.
Remove tackle from blockers. Give it to blitzers.
Blitzers lose thick skull, drop to av8, gain tackle as mentioned, keep ag3, possibly give them ma6.
Troll slayers lose block, gain juggernaut.
Runners gain dump-off, lose thick skull.
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Post by gone on Sept 12, 2015 11:39:01 GMT
My 2c. Remove tackle from blockers. Give it to blitzers. Blitzers lose thick skull, drop to av8, gain tackle as mentioned, keep ag3. Troll slayers lose block, gain juggernaut. Runners gain dump-off, lose thick skull. that sounds pretty good
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Post by comfort_eagle on Sept 12, 2015 11:56:34 GMT
so what you're saying is the only non op team is Goblins. Ok everyone lets all go goblins to make it fair!
and you should feel bad!
Oh no. And that's why Goblins are beyond measuring when it comes to being OP. They are so sneaky they even made me forget about them. Those bastards. The worst. Ok everyone, lets all go goblins (fullstop). They pretty much have the same tactics as dorfs, except without any skills and armour. Tho somehow even when they pitch clear, they don't attract as much hate as dorfs... go figure.
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Post by Squiggy on Sept 12, 2015 12:24:36 GMT
That's because half the time it's a self-clear :-)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 13:18:56 GMT
Ooh boy, this really got interesting overnight
I will respond after work. In the meantime somebody might consider creating a seperate Dwarf Love-Hate thread, because this thing is off the rails.
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Post by Squiggy on Sept 12, 2015 13:39:32 GMT
My 2c. Remove tackle from blockers. Give it to blitzers. Blitzers lose thick skull, drop to av8, gain tackle as mentioned, keep ag3, increase MA to 6 Troll slayers lose block, gain juggernaut. Runners gain dump-off, lose thick skull. that sounds pretty good To be fair, as I said, I don't think dwarves are any more OP than any other race. What I thought of is more a tweak than a nerf really, and it seems to mostly make sense and seems balanced.
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Post by Kaiser on Sept 12, 2015 14:18:26 GMT
i have yet to lose vs a dwarf team in BB 2 in 18 games i have only lost 2 and it was to humans edit yes FZ i do agree with you.. dwarfs will have more cash than other players and so will have better time of it in long run yeah, in the long run though, you will end up running into teams with the killer combo. But those aren't enough to destroy your team as most teams will only have one or two of them (if they are lucky). And maybe, I will take you up on that challenge to see if you can defeat me while I play Dwarves vs whatever team you choose (except dwarves...lol). I have no concern with keeping the dwarf team and will delete them shortly after anyway, but I am willing to take that challenge! awesome mate bring em on
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Post by cerumol on Sept 12, 2015 16:19:16 GMT
I don't really see the issue with Dorfs. For me I find playing against them a bit dull but their speed is a massive weakness. It's one reaso. Why they struggle overall as they may be hard yo beT but equally it's hard for them to win and leads to lots of draws. Most teams can outmanoeuvre them or out strength them. It's like any race, look at the weaknesses and exploit them
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Post by shaunuthun on Sept 12, 2015 18:10:30 GMT
I agree with Cerumol 100% Dorfs aren't impossible to beat unless they have great dice and a great coach (but then the same is true for any race) The only reason I don't like them is the slow cage then stall tactic. I understand its a totally fine tactic and I've done it myself a fair few times but it is still just boring to face and sure you can counter it but its hard and somewhat of a snoozefest for me. That's why I hate to face Dorfs not cause they are OP but because they are just boring to me. At the same time I have had a few fun matches against them when going against coaches who can actually have a laugh and make things interesting
And before anyone says anything I played as Dorfs for a good few games and I did have fun occasionally but mostly when using the Dorfroller to do silly things
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